Lessons with Brahms

I found a wonderful text about how Robert and Clara Schumannโ€™s daughter (Eugenie Schumann, 1851โ€“1938) studied with Brahms, and I decided to share it here together with a few of my own comments. And you'll find a ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ at the end of this text!

๐—˜.๐—ฆ.: โ€œ๐—œ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ, ๐—บ๐˜† ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ด๐—ผ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ธ ๐—•๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ต๐—บ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ด๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐—น๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€ ๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐˜‚๐—บ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ. ๐—ฆ๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ต๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ฎ ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜„ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐˜ ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜„๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ธ ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—บ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฐ. ๐—œ ๐—ณ๐—ฒ๐—น๐˜ ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜† ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐˜†. ๐— ๐˜† ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜ ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—บ๐˜† ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€, ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—œ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ต๐˜ ๐—œ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜†๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—œ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฑ. ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ป๐—ผ ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ผ๐—บ ๐—œ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜„๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ธ ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ. ๐—•๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ต๐—บ๐˜€ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐˜† ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฑ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—ด๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐˜„๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ ๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ. ๐—›๐—ฒ ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—บ ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—น๐˜† ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฒ, ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜†๐˜€ ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜. ๐—œ๐—ป ๐—ฎ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ธ๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜†, ๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ท๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—บ๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ถ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—บ๐˜† ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜.โ€

DZ: It is very telling that she begins her description by speaking about how she felt. The emotional situation is incredibly important. If it is not right, the chances of real progress are very small.

Sadly, parents and teachers very often bring demands and expectations to a child instead of listening to how this particular child naturally wants to grow. When a child is turned into a project, or used as a way for a parent or teacher to prove something about themselves, to have something to be proud of, or when an excellent pianist cannot accept the idea that their child or student may not become a strong pianist, that child is very often being led into real suffering.

Some children are very gifted, they feel a strong calling, and they are ready to carry a heavy load. But others are simply not ready for that. And a good teacher, in my view, must be able to adapt to the studentโ€™s abilities, both mental and physical. Brahms, it seems, was very good at this.

๐—˜.๐—ฆ.: โ€œ๐—›๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—ฒ๐—ณ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฝ ๐—บ๐˜† ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€. ๐—›๐—ฒ ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ฑ ๐—บ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ต ๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€, ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ป๐—ถ๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—น, ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—บ๐˜† ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฑ. ๐—ฆ๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฑ ๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ณ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐—น๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐—ฎ ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜ ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—น๐—น๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—บ.โ€

DZ: This is a great remark, actual today as never before. Clara Schumann could not really teach her daughter technique, because she herself had learned piano at such an early age, and was so naturally gifted, that she no longer remembered how it had happened. And this is actually one of the main reasons why so many brilliant pianists cannot fully teach technique. Most pianists learn it so early that later they simply do not remember how they themselves were taught. For such pianists, playing the piano can feel so natural that when you meet a student with technical problems, it is almost like meeting someone who lives in a completely different reality.

It reminds me of that parable about the blind man and his sighted friend. The sighted man was trying to explain what the color white is. He brought a rabbit and said, โ€œHere, it is white, touch it.โ€ โ€œAh, so white means soft,โ€ said the blind man. โ€œNo, no,โ€ the other replied, โ€œlook, I brought you white snow, touch it.โ€ โ€œAh, so white means cold,โ€ said the blind man.

That is why the people who often teach technique best are either musicians who became deeply interested in these questions out of real pedagogical curiosity โ€” which unfortunately is quite rare โ€” or musicians who had their own difficulties and were forced to go deeply into these issues themselves, as happened in my case. I overworked my hands because of a huge load, and also because I was playing with just a little more tension than necessary. Over fifteen years of a very intense career, that built up into muscular pain. Because of this, I had to understand these things in depth in order to return to performing. And only because of that was I also able to become a fairly good teacher.

Truth be told, there is sometimes another extreme: experts on efficiency can become so obsessed with it that they focus on it too much, and forget that ultimately, technique is only a tool for creative expression and artistic exploration.

๐—˜.๐—ฆ.: โ€œ๐—›๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜† ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐˜€, ๐˜€๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ฒ๐˜€, ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ด๐—ด๐—ถ๐—ผ๐˜€, ๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ถ๐—ณ ๐—ถ๐˜ ๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—น๐—ฑโ€ฆ ๐—•๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ต๐—บ๐˜€, ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ธ๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐˜† ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ, ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ป๐—ถ๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ฒ, ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐˜† ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด, ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ต ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐˜€, ๐˜€๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐˜€๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฑ๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐˜€, ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—น๐˜† ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฐ ๐—ถ๐˜๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ณ.โ€

DZ: This is an interesting point of view, and of course Brahmsโ€™s collection of exercises is very good. I even made a full course on these exercises, explaining how to practice them. Because if you do them the wrong way, they can actually do harm instead of good. But in general, opinions differ here. There are also brilliant musician-teachers who do not put so much emphasis on exercises and say that all the necessary skills can be developed directly through studying pieces themselves.

In the end, though, I would say that all roads lead to Rome. Sviatoslav Richter could not stand scales and never played them in his life, while Emil Gilels or Sergei Rachmaninoff found benefit in playing scales and exercises even at a very advanced age. You can practice exercises and scales, or not โ€” the most important thing is to practice correctly, reinforcing good habits, and not becoming a victim of mindless routine. But that is a topic for another discussion.

๐—˜.S.: โ€œ๐—›๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜€๐—ผ ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ต๐˜‚๐—บ๐—ฏ, ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ต, ๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜† ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐—ธ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜„, ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜† ๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐˜„๐—ป ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ผ ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด. ๐—ช๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐—ฎ ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ต๐˜‚๐—บ๐—ฏ, ๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ถ๐˜ ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—น๐˜† ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฑ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜„ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ. ๐—•๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜…๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฒ, ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—น๐—น ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ผ.โ€

DZ: And this is a really excellent remark, because in my own teaching a huge number of technical problems are connected precisely with the fact that students do not know what to do with this big, awkward elephant. The thumb really does require very careful training. If it is placed well, it becomes a reliable anchor in any storm. If it is placed badly, it is like throwing a stone brick into a working washing machine. By the way, as a reward for getting through this text, use coupon ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฑ๐—ข๐—™๐—™ for a great 45% discount for the next courses before April 30:

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